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This edition of our Heads apart? podcast asks: how do we tackle low pay in Britain? We explore whether the benefits system is working for those on low pay, the role education policy can play in improving productivity, and ask whether Britain’s economy should become more like Singapore’s or more like Sweden’s. We are joined by Peter Franklin, Associate Editor at Unherd and former Conservative policy adviser, and George Eaton, Assistant Editor at the New Statesman.

Political analysis today can be shouty and superficial, with people shaming and stereotyping those who disagree with them. We take a different approach. Our podcast brings together people with different views to engage in respectful, thoughtful and detailed discussion on major political and cultural issues.

Music credit: Lights by Sappheiros

Presented by: Ryan Shorthouse | Produced by: Sam Robinson